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		<title>Comment on First steps with cfengine by Elizabeth King</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/518-first-steps-with-cfengine/comment-page-1#comment-6899</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there are lots of social issues these days mostly due to our culture and economic situation;:-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are lots of social issues these days mostly due to our culture and economic situation;:-</p>
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		<title>Comment on Once, We Were Makers by Links from the week of 19. July 2010 to 26. July 2010 &#171; Hacker&#39;s Ramblings: Blag by Rix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links from the week of 19. July 2010 to 26. July 2010 &#171; Hacker&#39;s Ramblings: Blag by Rix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Once, We Were Makers &#8212; Well put, John&#8230; I fear my generation will be even worse  Keep the tinkerers alive (Boomtime, the 56th of Confusion in the YOLD 3176) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Once, We Were Makers &#8212; Well put, John&#8230; I fear my generation will be even worse  Keep the tinkerers alive (Boomtime, the 56th of Confusion in the YOLD 3176) [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Introducing the Command Line at 3 years by Mark Dominus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Dominus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 21:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At about the same age my kid was bashing on the keyboard, but then she would ask me &quot;how many &#039;s&#039;s are there&quot;?  I got tired of counting pretty quickly, so instead of bashing at cat I had her bash at  perl -nle &#039;print tr/sS//&#039; .  That was popular for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At about the same age my kid was bashing on the keyboard, but then she would ask me &#8220;how many &#8217;s&#8217;s are there&#8221;?  I got tired of counting pretty quickly, so instead of bashing at cat I had her bash at  perl -nle &#8216;print tr/sS//&#8217; .  That was popular for a long time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Once, We Were Makers by John</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/1519-once-we-were-makers/comment-page-1#comment-6882</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was given the same 160 in 1 set for a birthday when I was about 11 (back when RadioShack/Tandy were still in the UK).  Incidentally, I too had started programming on my Dad&#039;s TRS-80 a few years earlier.

I&#039;m not sure that RadioShack&#039;s decline is entirely due to society&#039;s change.  All specialised shops have been under pressure from internet mail order.  Shop retail has become increasingly about providing customer experience rather than stock, since they can&#039;t possibly compete with the net on range or price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was given the same 160 in 1 set for a birthday when I was about 11 (back when RadioShack/Tandy were still in the UK).  Incidentally, I too had started programming on my Dad&#8217;s TRS-80 a few years earlier.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure that RadioShack&#8217;s decline is entirely due to society&#8217;s change.  All specialised shops have been under pressure from internet mail order.  Shop retail has become increasingly about providing customer experience rather than stock, since they can&#8217;t possibly compete with the net on range or price.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why I Buy $100 Fans (Review: Vornado) by Borak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Borak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 00:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just bought the one with only three positions. The lowest is still aimed upward. It&#039;s supposed to blow 100 feet, which told me nothing. I wish all fans were rated for blowing power so I&#039;d have a frame of reference. If it were super-powerful, I could see not wanting it directly on you, so just three upward positions would be fine, but it&#039;s not as powerful as I hoped. At the end of a 30 foot room you may want it directly on you and you&#039;d have to put something under the base to tilt it. I think it&#039;s more powerful than my larger high velocity fan and the blades are cleanable, unlike some of the other powerful fans, and it&#039;s UL listed (I think) and made for the home, so...I guess I&#039;m not to dissatisfied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just bought the one with only three positions. The lowest is still aimed upward. It&#8217;s supposed to blow 100 feet, which told me nothing. I wish all fans were rated for blowing power so I&#8217;d have a frame of reference. If it were super-powerful, I could see not wanting it directly on you, so just three upward positions would be fine, but it&#8217;s not as powerful as I hoped. At the end of a 30 foot room you may want it directly on you and you&#8217;d have to put something under the base to tilt it. I think it&#8217;s more powerful than my larger high velocity fan and the blades are cleanable, unlike some of the other powerful fans, and it&#8217;s UL listed (I think) and made for the home, so&#8230;I guess I&#8217;m not to dissatisfied.</p>
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		<title>Comment on So long, Vim.  I&#8217;m returning to Emacs by Anonymous Coward</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/661-so-long-vim-im-returning-to-emacs/comment-page-2#comment-6871</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous Coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you get used to working in Vim normal mode, you&#039;re not supposed to use either arrow keys or hjkl most of the time. You instead navigate a word at the time with w/b or W/B, a sentence at the time with ( and ), a paragraph at the time with { and }, or until next occurence of character &#039;x&#039; with fx / Fx. See `:help cursor-motions&#039; for more info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you get used to working in Vim normal mode, you&#8217;re not supposed to use either arrow keys or hjkl most of the time. You instead navigate a word at the time with w/b or W/B, a sentence at the time with ( and ), a paragraph at the time with { and }, or until next occurence of character &#8216;x&#8217; with fx / Fx. See `:help cursor-motions&#8217; for more info.</p>
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		<title>Comment on So long, Vim.  I&#8217;m returning to Emacs by Anonymous Coward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous Coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s because python syntax is _defined_ by indentation, so the indentation can obviously not be defined by the syntax. We&#039;ve got a classic chicken-and-egg problem.

Consider this example:
if a == b:
print &quot;some text&quot;
print &quot;some more text&quot;

How is Vim supposed to know whether the second print statement should belong to the if block or not?

If you try autoindenting e.g. a file in C, XML or JavaScript however, Vim would correctly adjust the indentation to the syntax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s because python syntax is _defined_ by indentation, so the indentation can obviously not be defined by the syntax. We&#8217;ve got a classic chicken-and-egg problem.</p>
<p>Consider this example:<br />
if a == b:<br />
print &#8220;some text&#8221;<br />
print &#8220;some more text&#8221;</p>
<p>How is Vim supposed to know whether the second print statement should belong to the if block or not?</p>
<p>If you try autoindenting e.g. a file in C, XML or JavaScript however, Vim would correctly adjust the indentation to the syntax.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jacob has a new computer &#8212; and a favorite shell by Andrew Ruthven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Ruthven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey John,

Interesting read.  It seems that an old defunct Apple PowerBook 100 is no longer acceptable with my 3.5 daughter.  She has just declared that she wants a working computer.  And we&#039;ve been told that having a login on my workstation isn&#039;t acceptable.

Good to hear that Jacob has been able to handle the command line okay.  I&#039;ll try Brooke out on it, currently her favourite game is making ice in Frozen Bubble.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey John,</p>
<p>Interesting read.  It seems that an old defunct Apple PowerBook 100 is no longer acceptable with my 3.5 daughter.  She has just declared that she wants a working computer.  And we&#8217;ve been told that having a login on my workstation isn&#8217;t acceptable.</p>
<p>Good to hear that Jacob has been able to handle the command line okay.  I&#8217;ll try Brooke out on it, currently her favourite game is making ice in Frozen Bubble.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Once, We Were Makers by Mate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for the discussion on getting too far from the origins, I think it is a valid claim, and I think it makes things less interesting. 

Firstly, the difficult challenges are usually those generated by the environment around us (i.e. Mother Nature) and not those generated by humans -- these latter I think are by definition bounded in complexity by the ingenuity of the human mind. 

Secondly (and more importantly), it is difficult to do &quot;hands-on&quot; problem solving with computers. Humans, and especially children, are very good at handicrafts, but less good at more abstract things. I can, for example, understand things much easier once I can _physically_ grab them, or even just draw them. Show someone a graph, explain what connectivity means, and he/she will immediately understand it. Show the same person a proof that infinite number of primes exist. The latter I think is a trivial proof, but most will give up at the definition of a &quot;prime&quot;.

(PS: I was in the US in 1988, so it makes sense I have that 160-in-1 set ;) )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for the discussion on getting too far from the origins, I think it is a valid claim, and I think it makes things less interesting. </p>
<p>Firstly, the difficult challenges are usually those generated by the environment around us (i.e. Mother Nature) and not those generated by humans &#8212; these latter I think are by definition bounded in complexity by the ingenuity of the human mind. </p>
<p>Secondly (and more importantly), it is difficult to do &#8220;hands-on&#8221; problem solving with computers. Humans, and especially children, are very good at handicrafts, but less good at more abstract things. I can, for example, understand things much easier once I can _physically_ grab them, or even just draw them. Show someone a graph, explain what connectivity means, and he/she will immediately understand it. Show the same person a proof that infinite number of primes exist. The latter I think is a trivial proof, but most will give up at the definition of a &#8220;prime&#8221;.</p>
<p>(PS: I was in the US in 1988, so it makes sense I have that 160-in-1 set ;) )</p>
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		<title>Comment on Once, We Were Makers by John Goerzen</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Goerzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 20:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is RadioShack changing because society has changed or are they just doing it of their own volition?  I agree that (with the exceptions I mentioned) I am no fan of RadioShack any more.  But has RS changed because there aren&#039;t enough people that enjoyed what it was any longer?  I think the answer to that is yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is RadioShack changing because society has changed or are they just doing it of their own volition?  I agree that (with the exceptions I mentioned) I am no fan of RadioShack any more.  But has RS changed because there aren&#8217;t enough people that enjoyed what it was any longer?  I think the answer to that is yes.</p>
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