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	<title>Comments on: Review: Why Religion Matters by Huston Smith</title>
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		<title>By: Ralph Ashby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph Ashby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i.e. &quot;sentient&quot;... sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i.e. &#8220;sentient&#8221;&#8230; sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Ashby</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/989-review-why-religion-matters-by-huston-smith/comment-page-1#comment-6904</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph Ashby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some atheists are more zealous than others.  As per your metaphor re stamp collecting:  people who choose not to collect stamps don&#039;t go around saying that no one should collect stamps.  Unfortunately, many of the Dawkinsian &quot;New Atheists&quot; or on the attack.  They do not merely choose not to follow a religion  -- they attack the entire concept (they often claim in &quot;self-defense&quot;, given the zealous nature of some fundamentalists).
As for &quot;evidence of God&quot;????  The Universe is evidence of God.  You may disagree if you like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some atheists are more zealous than others.  As per your metaphor re stamp collecting:  people who choose not to collect stamps don&#8217;t go around saying that no one should collect stamps.  Unfortunately, many of the Dawkinsian &#8220;New Atheists&#8221; or on the attack.  They do not merely choose not to follow a religion  &#8212; they attack the entire concept (they often claim in &#8220;self-defense&#8221;, given the zealous nature of some fundamentalists).<br />
As for &#8220;evidence of God&#8221;????  The Universe is evidence of God.  You may disagree if you like.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Ashby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph Ashby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re not really an atheist, right?  You sound more like a Deist  perhaps.  Also, you meant &quot;satient.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re not really an atheist, right?  You sound more like a Deist  perhaps.  Also, you meant &#8220;satient.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Ashby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph Ashby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More to the point, the scientific explanations for &quot;how things get done&quot; does not leave less for God to do, but merely explain (partially) how he does things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More to the point, the scientific explanations for &#8220;how things get done&#8221; does not leave less for God to do, but merely explain (partially) how he does things.</p>
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		<title>By: The Big-Publisher Ebook Scam &#124; The Changelog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Big-Publisher Ebook Scam &#124; The Changelog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 04:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Smith&#8217;s Why Religion Matters included some illustrations, but they were scanned at such a low resolution that the text was [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Smith&#8217;s Why Religion Matters included some illustrations, but they were scanned at such a low resolution that the text was [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 04:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well,  the just like the Mennonites,  the Church of the Brethren is very diverse.   The church I grew up in was not that conservative,  but I visted other churches that were.   There are a lot of Amish in my home town,  and lots of Conservative Mennonites.    You don&#039;t have to travel that far,  however,  to find  technocratic Mennonites,  similar in nature to the less-conservative elements of the Brethren.   :-)

I might  take a look at Borg at some point too,  perhaps.   It does sound like Smith is a more interesting read.   

I actually identify best with orthodox Quaker theology;  and have attended several unprogrammed meetings.   I think that Quakers sometimes get too liberal in their theology,  confusing the Quaker&#039;s proscription against browbeating others on matters of faith with a license to believe whatever you want,  and confusing respect for others with the need to accept and validate their beliefs.

I think,  that in an honest effort to seek out and listen to God,  you will inevitably be pulled in directions that you don&#039;t really want to go in,  or initially disagree with.

My condolences on the passing of your grandmother.   I lost my first grandparent not quite 2 years ago;   the other three are still living though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well,  the just like the Mennonites,  the Church of the Brethren is very diverse.   The church I grew up in was not that conservative,  but I visted other churches that were.   There are a lot of Amish in my home town,  and lots of Conservative Mennonites.    You don&#8217;t have to travel that far,  however,  to find  technocratic Mennonites,  similar in nature to the less-conservative elements of the Brethren.   :-)</p>
<p>I might  take a look at Borg at some point too,  perhaps.   It does sound like Smith is a more interesting read.   </p>
<p>I actually identify best with orthodox Quaker theology;  and have attended several unprogrammed meetings.   I think that Quakers sometimes get too liberal in their theology,  confusing the Quaker&#8217;s proscription against browbeating others on matters of faith with a license to believe whatever you want,  and confusing respect for others with the need to accept and validate their beliefs.</p>
<p>I think,  that in an honest effort to seek out and listen to God,  you will inevitably be pulled in directions that you don&#8217;t really want to go in,  or initially disagree with.</p>
<p>My condolences on the passing of your grandmother.   I lost my first grandparent not quite 2 years ago;   the other three are still living though.</p>
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		<title>By: Snowden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snowden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;1) The certainty that there is no god or metaphysical existence

2) The certainty that humans cannot know whether a god or metaphysical universe exists

3) The certainty that there is a god or metaphysical universe&quot;

It seems to me this hinges upon the definition of existence. Is it even meaningful to discuss the existence of something that is, by definition, completely inaccessible? For a god to escape the detection of the scientific method, they would have to avoid interacting with anything physical, or accessible, at all. Once they interact, they can be measured by their effects, and then their inexistence will be refuted, destroying their metaphysical status!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;1) The certainty that there is no god or metaphysical existence</p>
<p>2) The certainty that humans cannot know whether a god or metaphysical universe exists</p>
<p>3) The certainty that there is a god or metaphysical universe&#8221;</p>
<p>It seems to me this hinges upon the definition of existence. Is it even meaningful to discuss the existence of something that is, by definition, completely inaccessible? For a god to escape the detection of the scientific method, they would have to avoid interacting with anything physical, or accessible, at all. Once they interact, they can be measured by their effects, and then their inexistence will be refuted, destroying their metaphysical status!</p>
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		<title>By: Snowden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snowden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you mean by &quot;the supernatural&quot;? Does it simply mean &quot;things that science can&#039;t comment upon&quot;?
I think it&#039;s a fairly big leap from &quot;it is possible that there exist metaphysical things, beyond the reach of our senses and instruments forever&quot;, to &quot;my specific formulation of a deity exists&quot;. I may be willing to accept the former, but I don&#039;t see any reason to accept the latter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you mean by &#8220;the supernatural&#8221;? Does it simply mean &#8220;things that science can&#8217;t comment upon&#8221;?<br />
I think it&#8217;s a fairly big leap from &#8220;it is possible that there exist metaphysical things, beyond the reach of our senses and instruments forever&#8221;, to &#8220;my specific formulation of a deity exists&#8221;. I may be willing to accept the former, but I don&#8217;t see any reason to accept the latter.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Finney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Finney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 09:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; However, to understand God one needs to work on his character by becoming humble, praying etc. ’cause, as e.g. explained in Bhagavad-gita: [if you can&#039;t see god it&#039;s because you&#039;re stupid]

Or that passage from the book could simply be false. Both possibilities explain the observable evidence (i.e. no evidence at all). Which is more likely?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; However, to understand God one needs to work on his character by becoming humble, praying etc. ’cause, as e.g. explained in Bhagavad-gita: [if you can't see god it's because you're stupid]</p>
<p>Or that passage from the book could simply be false. Both possibilities explain the observable evidence (i.e. no evidence at all). Which is more likely?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 05:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 
  
To attempt to return the favor of material to think on, I enjoyed watching Dinesh D&#039;Souza&#039;s first debate with Peter Singer on God and morality, which is available on YouTube:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phgb67NAaHA

They argued many of the questions brought up by this blog post, including the question of how we should reason about explanations we&#039;re given for events we can&#039;t test with science.  (To paraphrase Singer&#039;s answer, which I find persuasive:  we can judge explanations that fail to use any evidence to be as likely -- or as unlikely -- as each other, even when we can&#039;t use science to test each of them individually.)

- Chris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>
<p>To attempt to return the favor of material to think on, I enjoyed watching Dinesh D&#8217;Souza&#8217;s first debate with Peter Singer on God and morality, which is available on YouTube:  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phgb67NAaHA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phgb67NAaHA</a></p>
<p>They argued many of the questions brought up by this blog post, including the question of how we should reason about explanations we&#8217;re given for events we can&#8217;t test with science.  (To paraphrase Singer&#8217;s answer, which I find persuasive:  we can judge explanations that fail to use any evidence to be as likely &#8212; or as unlikely &#8212; as each other, even when we can&#8217;t use science to test each of them individually.)</p>
<p>- Chris.</p>
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