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	<title>Comments on: Mexico Part 4: Street Scenes and Architecture</title>
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		<title>By: JL</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/7175-mexico-part-4-street-scenes-and-architecture/comment-page-1#comment-10356</link>
		<dc:creator>JL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2012 16:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John, of course you are the only one who can discern what is appropriate for your children and not. But I think that you might perceive it to be &quot;non appropriate&quot; because there is an inherit cultural difference in this point. Death as a cartoon character or as a concept, is not perceived in Mexico as it is in the US. In mexico it is perceived as (on my opinion) what it is, the one certainty in life, and accepted as such, and the day of the dead is the day when, according to tradition, our loved ones that have died before us, come for a day to &quot;visit&quot;, and that why it is a Day of celebration, celebration for the opportunity to remember and honor our grandfathers and grand mothers, parents, uncles and aunts and anyone who we have loved and is no longer with us. This in contraposition to its analog in the US is not supposed to be scary or morbid in anyway but happy.

if you can watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94Itpne_1Ww&amp;feature=results_main&amp;playnext=1&amp;list=PL07AD1AA82B78873E


Good Luck and hope this is the first of many visits to our beautiful country.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, of course you are the only one who can discern what is appropriate for your children and not. But I think that you might perceive it to be &#8220;non appropriate&#8221; because there is an inherit cultural difference in this point. Death as a cartoon character or as a concept, is not perceived in Mexico as it is in the US. In mexico it is perceived as (on my opinion) what it is, the one certainty in life, and accepted as such, and the day of the dead is the day when, according to tradition, our loved ones that have died before us, come for a day to &#8220;visit&#8221;, and that why it is a Day of celebration, celebration for the opportunity to remember and honor our grandfathers and grand mothers, parents, uncles and aunts and anyone who we have loved and is no longer with us. This in contraposition to its analog in the US is not supposed to be scary or morbid in anyway but happy.</p>
<p>if you can watch this</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94Itpne_1Ww&#038;feature=results_main&#038;playnext=1&#038;list=PL07AD1AA82B78873E" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94Itpne_1Ww&#038;feature=results_main&#038;playnext=1&#038;list=PL07AD1AA82B78873E</a></p>
<p>Good Luck and hope this is the first of many visits to our beautiful country.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 02:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I used to live in Guanajuato. The carefully trimmed trees you mentioned are in Jardín de la Unión. I once wrote more about the whole town:

http://www.everything2.com/title/Guanajuato

A friend from Canada recently visited me in Mexico City, and she was really enamoured with our trees. She kept taking pictures of them:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/juilletrain/sets/72157627586875088/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to live in Guanajuato. The carefully trimmed trees you mentioned are in Jardín de la Unión. I once wrote more about the whole town:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.everything2.com/title/Guanajuato" rel="nofollow">http://www.everything2.com/title/Guanajuato</a></p>
<p>A friend from Canada recently visited me in Mexico City, and she was really enamoured with our trees. She kept taking pictures of them:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/juilletrain/sets/72157627586875088/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/juilletrain/sets/72157627586875088/</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Goerzen</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Goerzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the typewriter explanation!

Yep, I was aware of that artistic streak. And in fact had thought we might go see some of the famous murals, but it didn&#039;t work out this time.  (Also some of them may not have been appropriate for our children.)  On my list for next time ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the typewriter explanation!</p>
<p>Yep, I was aware of that artistic streak. And in fact had thought we might go see some of the famous murals, but it didn&#8217;t work out this time.  (Also some of them may not have been appropriate for our children.)  On my list for next time ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Gunnar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gunnar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The typewriter guys are called &quot;evangelists&quot; (not because of religious connotations, but because they were the people that brought the good, and sometimes not-so-good, news — That&#039;s the meaning of &quot;evangelist&quot; in Greek), and are mostly a leftover from simpler times... But yes, they are still active. It&#039;s not only people who cannot read/write who employs their services nowadays (&quot;formal&quot; illiteracy is very low, although functional illiteracy still has a way to go — I mean, basically all people can read and write, IIRC the percentage was clearly above 90%, but for many people the effort in reading and the lack of vocabulary means they still cannot understand what they read or write in a coherent way that makes them be understood), but people who need to take papers to banks or public offices which have to be filled in clearly and cleanly.

Of course, not all evangelists work on a bench on a square — those are quite prominent, but you might have seen several office supplies stores advertising they are also &quot;escritorio público&quot; (public desk). Of course, their numbers are shrinking as they gradually become internet cafes.

Oh, FWIW - The square where you will find most old-school evangelists in Mexico City is Plaza de Santo Domingo. They work together with printing workshops (offset, silk-screen, ...), and are said to be one of the largest fake paperwork issuers in the country. It is rumored you can buy anything from a block of invoices for which the government has no trace to a fake posgraduate university degree (mockingly, when you doubt somebody&#039;s credentials, you say they are graduates of the Universidad de Santo Domingo). In fact, we had even a Federal Education Secretary, Fausto Calderón Alzati, who had to step down when it was discovered his doctorate was false (and he had only a &quot;licenciatura&quot;, equivalent to a B.Sc.)

Regarding the bench you took a photo of: I know many foreigners are amazed at the familiarity we have here with skulls and different representations of death in a funny way. No, I won&#039;t repeat the (false IMO) meme that &quot;we Mexicans are friends with death, instead of fearing it, we laugh at it&quot;. Of course we are people, just like anybody, and fear it. But you will find many, many artworks (mainly starting with the great impulse of the late-XIX century engraver José Guadalupe Posada) where death is just one more common visitor. Posada started drawing skulls in order to hide the identity of the politicians he was mocking in a time of strong censorship, and it stuck, and... many of us love it :) Sadly you didn&#039;t stay until closer to November 1st (Día de Muertos, Day of the Dead), which is probably the most beautiful, colorful, joyful parties of our calendar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The typewriter guys are called &#8220;evangelists&#8221; (not because of religious connotations, but because they were the people that brought the good, and sometimes not-so-good, news — That&#8217;s the meaning of &#8220;evangelist&#8221; in Greek), and are mostly a leftover from simpler times&#8230; But yes, they are still active. It&#8217;s not only people who cannot read/write who employs their services nowadays (&#8220;formal&#8221; illiteracy is very low, although functional illiteracy still has a way to go — I mean, basically all people can read and write, IIRC the percentage was clearly above 90%, but for many people the effort in reading and the lack of vocabulary means they still cannot understand what they read or write in a coherent way that makes them be understood), but people who need to take papers to banks or public offices which have to be filled in clearly and cleanly.</p>
<p>Of course, not all evangelists work on a bench on a square — those are quite prominent, but you might have seen several office supplies stores advertising they are also &#8220;escritorio público&#8221; (public desk). Of course, their numbers are shrinking as they gradually become internet cafes.</p>
<p>Oh, FWIW &#8211; The square where you will find most old-school evangelists in Mexico City is Plaza de Santo Domingo. They work together with printing workshops (offset, silk-screen, &#8230;), and are said to be one of the largest fake paperwork issuers in the country. It is rumored you can buy anything from a block of invoices for which the government has no trace to a fake posgraduate university degree (mockingly, when you doubt somebody&#8217;s credentials, you say they are graduates of the Universidad de Santo Domingo). In fact, we had even a Federal Education Secretary, Fausto Calderón Alzati, who had to step down when it was discovered his doctorate was false (and he had only a &#8220;licenciatura&#8221;, equivalent to a B.Sc.)</p>
<p>Regarding the bench you took a photo of: I know many foreigners are amazed at the familiarity we have here with skulls and different representations of death in a funny way. No, I won&#8217;t repeat the (false IMO) meme that &#8220;we Mexicans are friends with death, instead of fearing it, we laugh at it&#8221;. Of course we are people, just like anybody, and fear it. But you will find many, many artworks (mainly starting with the great impulse of the late-XIX century engraver José Guadalupe Posada) where death is just one more common visitor. Posada started drawing skulls in order to hide the identity of the politicians he was mocking in a time of strong censorship, and it stuck, and&#8230; many of us love it :) Sadly you didn&#8217;t stay until closer to November 1st (Día de Muertos, Day of the Dead), which is probably the most beautiful, colorful, joyful parties of our calendar.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 06:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks like they&#039;re wide enough to handle mopeds, motorcycles, bicycles and scooters, all of which are vehicles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like they&#8217;re wide enough to handle mopeds, motorcycles, bicycles and scooters, all of which are vehicles.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Hellige</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Hellige</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 03:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding the typewriters...
http://echopark.patch.com/articles/the-writer-for-hire]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the typewriters&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://echopark.patch.com/articles/the-writer-for-hire" rel="nofollow">http://echopark.patch.com/articles/the-writer-for-hire</a></p>
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