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	<title>Comments on: First Look at Google Plus</title>
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		<title>By: Neli</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/6787-first-look-at-google-plus/comment-page-1#comment-9133</link>
		<dc:creator>Neli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 04:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great read. Honestly though, it does have a lot of potential. I pretty much enjoy the feature called Hangouts (details here:http://gplustutorials.com/basics/google-plus-hangouts/ ).
It&#039;s video chat that can give Skype a run for its money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great read. Honestly though, it does have a lot of potential. I pretty much enjoy the feature called Hangouts (details here:<a href="http://gplustutorials.com/basics/google-plus-hangouts/" rel="nofollow">http://gplustutorials.com/basics/google-plus-hangouts/</a> ).<br />
It&#8217;s video chat that can give Skype a run for its money.</p>
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		<title>By: rants.org &#187; Blog Archive &#187; You can&#8217;t Google &#8220;Google+&#8221;. Anyone have a problem with that?</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/6787-first-look-at-google-plus/comment-page-1#comment-9132</link>
		<dc:creator>rants.org &#187; Blog Archive &#187; You can&#8217;t Google &#8220;Google+&#8221;. Anyone have a problem with that?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 04:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] using &#8220;googleplus&#8221; as a synonm gets some useful results, I guess because people are sometimes using that spelling when writing for the web. I wonder if that&#8217;s because they&#8217;re aware of this problem. Of [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] using &#8220;googleplus&#8221; as a synonm gets some useful results, I guess because people are sometimes using that spelling when writing for the web. I wonder if that&#8217;s because they&#8217;re aware of this problem. Of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Goerzen</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/6787-first-look-at-google-plus/comment-page-1#comment-9101</link>
		<dc:creator>John Goerzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 14:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m using FF 5 now... yeah FF 3.5 won&#039;t do everything exactly right, but my point is that it should fail more gracefully.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m using FF 5 now&#8230; yeah FF 3.5 won&#8217;t do everything exactly right, but my point is that it should fail more gracefully.</p>
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		<title>By: r</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/6787-first-look-at-google-plus/comment-page-1#comment-9100</link>
		<dc:creator>r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 05:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You may have problems in an old version of Firefox, but I use Opera, a browser that prides itself on its standards compliance, and the simplest things break in Google sites all the time. I actually had to fire up Firefox to edit my G+ privacy settings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may have problems in an old version of Firefox, but I use Opera, a browser that prides itself on its standards compliance, and the simplest things break in Google sites all the time. I actually had to fire up Firefox to edit my G+ privacy settings.</p>
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		<title>By: rpetre</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/6787-first-look-at-google-plus/comment-page-1#comment-9096</link>
		<dc:creator>rpetre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 05:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John: You may want to know about the Google Takeout project: https://www.google.com/takeout , it inlcudes the G+ stream.

IMHO the best part about the &quot;not FB&quot; angle is that Google is going to use this social graph to improve their own personalized search and ads algorithms, and not try to monetize it to external parties, which has huge implications for any present or future privacy controls.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John: You may want to know about the Google Takeout project: <a href="https://www.google.com/takeout" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/takeout</a> , it inlcudes the G+ stream.</p>
<p>IMHO the best part about the &#8220;not FB&#8221; angle is that Google is going to use this social graph to improve their own personalized search and ads algorithms, and not try to monetize it to external parties, which has huge implications for any present or future privacy controls.</p>
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		<title>By: John Goerzen</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/6787-first-look-at-google-plus/comment-page-1#comment-9095</link>
		<dc:creator>John Goerzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 02:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And sure enough, they&#039;ve recently updated the Picasa storage details: http://picasa.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=1224181]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And sure enough, they&#8217;ve recently updated the Picasa storage details: <a href="http://picasa.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=1224181" rel="nofollow">http://picasa.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=1224181</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Goerzen</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/6787-first-look-at-google-plus/comment-page-1#comment-9094</link>
		<dc:creator>John Goerzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 02:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Huh, interesting.  If that persists, they may yet get me to switch from Flickr.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh, interesting.  If that persists, they may yet get me to switch from Flickr.</p>
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		<title>By: John Goerzen</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/6787-first-look-at-google-plus/comment-page-1#comment-9093</link>
		<dc:creator>John Goerzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 02:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I have heard those promises too.  They probably will deliver.  But I don&#039;t want to be enthusiastic about something over what it may do in the future, only over what it does now.  And for now, it feels controlling and restrictive.

On the other hand, G+ doesn&#039;t have Farmville.  Millions may fall in love with it for that simple fact.

I do see their point.  They are getting cheap beta testing out of this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I have heard those promises too.  They probably will deliver.  But I don&#8217;t want to be enthusiastic about something over what it may do in the future, only over what it does now.  And for now, it feels controlling and restrictive.</p>
<p>On the other hand, G+ doesn&#8217;t have Farmville.  Millions may fall in love with it for that simple fact.</p>
<p>I do see their point.  They are getting cheap beta testing out of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Markus Koller</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/6787-first-look-at-google-plus/comment-page-1#comment-9092</link>
		<dc:creator>Markus Koller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 02:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually it doesn&#039;t matter how it was uploaded, all images up to 2048x2048 now simply don&#039;t count against the Picasa quota anymore.

This even applies to previously uploaded albums, I had a few and after signing up for G+ it now says I&#039;m using 0 MB of storage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually it doesn&#8217;t matter how it was uploaded, all images up to 2048&#215;2048 now simply don&#8217;t count against the Picasa quota anymore.</p>
<p>This even applies to previously uploaded albums, I had a few and after signing up for G+ it now says I&#8217;m using 0 MB of storage.</p>
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		<title>By: marcelo</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/6787-first-look-at-google-plus/comment-page-1#comment-9091</link>
		<dc:creator>marcelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 01:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The API is &quot;promised&quot;.  Not good, I know, but at least they are not planning on leaving this as it stands now.

The bit about not being able to push stuff to Google+ ... I&#039;ve seen mixed reactions to this.  You and I would like that.  It seems other people actually appreciate the fact that this can&#039;t be done (yet?).  They seem to think that this is allowing the people to play with Google+ and *only* with Google+, kicking its tires if you wish.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The API is &#8220;promised&#8221;.  Not good, I know, but at least they are not planning on leaving this as it stands now.</p>
<p>The bit about not being able to push stuff to Google+ &#8230; I&#8217;ve seen mixed reactions to this.  You and I would like that.  It seems other people actually appreciate the fact that this can&#8217;t be done (yet?).  They seem to think that this is allowing the people to play with Google+ and *only* with Google+, kicking its tires if you wish.</p>
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		<title>By: John Goerzen</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/6787-first-look-at-google-plus/comment-page-1#comment-9090</link>
		<dc:creator>John Goerzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 00:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right, but isn&#039;t that confusing and counter-intuitive?  I don&#039;t see why they should care how it was uploaded, and moreover, I don&#039;t see a clear indication of what counts against quota and what doesn&#039;t in picasa web (though I am not terribly familiar with that service and may missing something)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, but isn&#8217;t that confusing and counter-intuitive?  I don&#8217;t see why they should care how it was uploaded, and moreover, I don&#8217;t see a clear indication of what counts against quota and what doesn&#8217;t in picasa web (though I am not terribly familiar with that service and may missing something)</p>
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		<title>By: John Goerzen</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/6787-first-look-at-google-plus/comment-page-1#comment-9089</link>
		<dc:creator>John Goerzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 00:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the correction; I&#039;ve updated the article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the correction; I&#8217;ve updated the article.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Tötterman</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/6787-first-look-at-google-plus/comment-page-1#comment-9088</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Tötterman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 00:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Images and videos uploaded via G+ (up to a specific size/length) don&#039;t use your Picasa quota.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Images and videos uploaded via G+ (up to a specific size/length) don&#8217;t use your Picasa quota.</p>
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		<title>By: joel</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/6787-first-look-at-google-plus/comment-page-1#comment-9087</link>
		<dc:creator>joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For your first point in &#039;The Bad&#039;:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/settings/exportdata?tab=X8]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For your first point in &#8216;The Bad&#8217;:<br />
<a href="https://plus.google.com/u/0/settings/exportdata?tab=X8" rel="nofollow">https://plus.google.com/u/0/settings/exportdata?tab=X8</a></p>
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		<title>By: bronte</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/6787-first-look-at-google-plus/comment-page-1#comment-9086</link>
		<dc:creator>bronte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;There is no way to take a copy of your status updates, comments, etc. and back them up with your own devices...&quot;
Isn&#039;t this just what &quot;data liberation&quot; (under &quot;Account Settings&quot;) does?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is no way to take a copy of your status updates, comments, etc. and back them up with your own devices&#8230;&#8221;<br />
Isn&#8217;t this just what &#8220;data liberation&#8221; (under &#8220;Account Settings&#8221;) does?</p>
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