Comments on: We need to follow the Amish example

By: terah

terah — Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:51:02 +0000

Here’s an interesting article from a Catholic Sister on the topic:

http://ncrcafe.org/node/513

By: Dylan Thurston

Dylan Thurston — Thu, 02 Nov 2006 16:28:03 +0000

I’m sure the poster meant to refer to Simon Wiesenthal, and got confused with Elie Wiesel.

By: Kevin Mark

Kevin Mark — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 01:04:22 +0000

I recently heard a conversation about playing the role of the slave and master characters in “Waiting for Godot” as performed by black and white actors in the South. The comment was about how, in the play, the Master holds a rope that attaches to the slave. The commentor said that ‘the rope goes both ways’. Similarly, the victim and his family and the perpatrator and his family, if based upon current trends, can be bound and locked in a similar destructive relationship. As soon as they abondon that relationship, the rope is abondoned, and both parties are free to do other things, like seek reconciliation, forgiveness or other more positive things.

By: C T

C T — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:57:39 +0000

Correction. I’m sure it WASN’T easy as 1-2-3-….

By: C T

C T — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:55:49 +0000

What does the Holocaust have to do with any of this? Seriously, many people of all different faiths and backgrounds perished in that event and in many other holocausts before that. However, it seams as though you have just jumped on the hate wagon and let the horses go.
I believe what John has written would be the ideal situation. To not pass hate down for generations on end might be nice too. The Japanese occupied my country for decades when my grandmother was a child, but I don’t walk around hating them for it or angry all the time.
It was refreshing to read this entry, we don’t have to be angry and stressed all the time even though or society encourages it. I’m sure it was as easy as 1-2-3 forgive, they are probably battling all types of emotions still.

By: Kirklin

Kirklin — Sat, 28 Oct 2006 08:47:59 +0000

It remains incredible to me that people of “faith” so completely discard the the concepts of grace and forgivenesss as being applicable to interpersonal and corporate relationships. My question to the zealots who have effectively gotten their way is: When one considers, only, the physical cost/loss of preparing for war and recovering from war of the past one hundred years how can you so glibly continue to dismiss grace and forgiveness as offering real possibilities to our world?
The basic tenets of Judaism and Christianity are the same. Why has the year of jubilee been thrown on the heap pile by the Jews and why have “Christians” ignored Matthew 5 to 7? Vengeance is not ours to repay!!!!!!!! And those who try end up in the same place as those they attempt to visit their spiteful revenge upon. What a viscious cycle we have going.

By: John Goerzen

John Goerzen — Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:23:29 +0000

You have no way to know what is in my heart any better than I do, and the same goes for the Amish.

Rather than repeat myself, please read this page and the comments that follow:

[url]http://changelog.complete.org/posts/517-Something-I-cant-understand.html[/url]

Also, I have never heard of Elie Wiesenthal, nor have I been able to track down who that person is. Would you please cite a source where I could read on the subject?

By: Daniel

Daniel — Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:39:46 +0000

Is that so? I suppose then your New Testament has a problem with the great Elie Wiesenthal hunting down every last hell-bound Nazi that he be brought to justice.

Would any of your hanky-panky flimsy-whimsy fake forgiveness that’s not in the heart anyway prevent another jewish holocaust?

What the freak is this New Testament of yours anyway?

By: John Goerzen

John Goerzen — Thu, 26 Oct 2006 02:46:51 +0000

I can’t speak to modern Judaism, but I can say that your position is certainly not consistent with pretty much the entire New Testament.

By: A jew

A jew — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:37:17 +0000

The judaeo-christian perspective is not all bleeding-heart “turn the other meek cheek” forgiveness. The message that murderers convey to their victims need to be reflected back upon them. Gainsville read pain and hatred in Rollings’ deeds, and so hatred and pain is returned unto him; the issue of whether via lethal injections or the electric chair is a detail. “Feel as I feel, dammit!” is the bedrock of civilization, justice, and the perpetuation of the human race.