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	<title>Comments on: Reiser4 Experiences</title>
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		<title>By: Sten</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/320-reiser4-experiences/comment-page-1#comment-1131</link>
		<dc:creator>Sten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 19:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reiser4 uses dancing trees which means that all written data are put aside and after successfully written, the storage tree &quot;dances&quot; to mark these data as the regular file (and the previous content as unused). It is fast and very reliable, but requires disk space. I just wonder if this can be called journal or not (both Wikipedia and Namesys do not).

Btw. smartmontools supports SATA drives handled by libata, just use smartctl with option &quot;-d ata&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reiser4 uses dancing trees which means that all written data are put aside and after successfully written, the storage tree &#8220;dances&#8221; to mark these data as the regular file (and the previous content as unused). It is fast and very reliable, but requires disk space. I just wonder if this can be called journal or not (both Wikipedia and Namesys do not).</p>
<p>Btw. smartmontools supports SATA drives handled by libata, just use smartctl with option &#8220;-d ata&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: jgoerzen</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/320-reiser4-experiences/comment-page-1#comment-402</link>
		<dc:creator>jgoerzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has been very good.  I have had an unexpected crash for various reasons, and have noted zero corruption as a result.  I&#039;m impressed.  Only ext3 in data=ordered has been able to match that.

I don&#039;t believe that reiser4 supports data journalling, but I&#039;m not certain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been very good.  I have had an unexpected crash for various reasons, and have noted zero corruption as a result.  I&#8217;m impressed.  Only ext3 in data=ordered has been able to match that.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe that reiser4 supports data journalling, but I&#8217;m not certain.</p>
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		<title>By: MrJoel</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/320-reiser4-experiences/comment-page-1#comment-401</link>
		<dc:creator>MrJoel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is the continued stability of Reiser4 for you now? I&#039;m assuming you are continuing to use it? Have you had a crash, and if so what was the result of the subsequent reboot?

Does reiser4 support data journalling, or only meta-journalling?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is the continued stability of Reiser4 for you now? I&#8217;m assuming you are continuing to use it? Have you had a crash, and if so what was the result of the subsequent reboot?</p>
<p>Does reiser4 support data journalling, or only meta-journalling?</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas Ukkonen</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/320-reiser4-experiences/comment-page-1#comment-369</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomas Ukkonen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 10:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just switched my root partition to reiser4 (2.6.11 + patch from namesys). 
AMD64/Pure64 + SATA + software raid1 + reiser4 works with no problems.

I have had a few issues when setting things up..

1. Grub doesn&#039;t support reiser4 without patch. I put my kernel to an ext3 partition.
2. SCSI/LIBATA SATA + MD RAID don&#039;t boottime autodetect md arrays because modules are loaded in wrong order (&#039;mdadm -A&#039; works). It&#039;s maybe possible to change the loading order but I just compiled LIBATA SATA support and software raid into kernel.
3. Reiser4 patch to 2.6.11 incorrectly sets ZLIB_DEFLATE=m. You need to hand edit &quot;.config&quot; to compile it into kernel (&#039;=y&#039;).
4. Smartctl doesn&#039;t support SATA drives with a SCSI/LIBATA driver. LIBATA should have support for needed ioctls soon (AFAIK they are waiting for SCSI T10 committee to define numbers for this). It seems that smartmontools will be updated to support those ioctls quickly after LIBATA supports them.

I haven&#039;t have any real problems with reiser4. 
Everything works normally (I have nopseudo on).

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just switched my root partition to reiser4 (2.6.11 + patch from namesys).<br />
AMD64/Pure64 + SATA + software raid1 + reiser4 works with no problems.</p>
<p>I have had a few issues when setting things up..</p>
<p>1. Grub doesn&#8217;t support reiser4 without patch. I put my kernel to an ext3 partition.<br />
2. SCSI/LIBATA SATA + MD RAID don&#8217;t boottime autodetect md arrays because modules are loaded in wrong order (&#8216;mdadm -A&#8217; works). It&#8217;s maybe possible to change the loading order but I just compiled LIBATA SATA support and software raid into kernel.<br />
3. Reiser4 patch to 2.6.11 incorrectly sets ZLIB_DEFLATE=m. You need to hand edit &#8220;.config&#8221; to compile it into kernel (&#8216;=y&#8217;).<br />
4. Smartctl doesn&#8217;t support SATA drives with a SCSI/LIBATA driver. LIBATA should have support for needed ioctls soon (AFAIK they are waiting for SCSI T10 committee to define numbers for this). It seems that smartmontools will be updated to support those ioctls quickly after LIBATA supports them.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t have any real problems with reiser4.<br />
Everything works normally (I have nopseudo on).</p>
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		<title>By: jgoerzen</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/320-reiser4-experiences/comment-page-1#comment-329</link>
		<dc:creator>jgoerzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2005 22:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That just tells it to disable it &quot;pseudo file&quot; support, which is an extension that no other Linux filesystem has.  With pseudo files, you can use specially-named invisible files to adjust metadata about files, such as owner and group.  However, a few tools are reported to not get along with them well.  I have no need for the pseudo files, so I disable the support, which makes Reiser4 behave with standard Linux semantics (that is, in the same way as all other Linux filesystems).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That just tells it to disable it &#8220;pseudo file&#8221; support, which is an extension that no other Linux filesystem has.  With pseudo files, you can use specially-named invisible files to adjust metadata about files, such as owner and group.  However, a few tools are reported to not get along with them well.  I have no need for the pseudo files, so I disable the support, which makes Reiser4 behave with standard Linux semantics (that is, in the same way as all other Linux filesystems).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/320-reiser4-experiences/comment-page-1#comment-328</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am really interested in trying out Reiser4 but am patiently waiting for it to be included in the kernel (even as experimental).  Tell me, how is the system different if you have nopseudo turned off?

Theo </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am really interested in trying out Reiser4 but am patiently waiting for it to be included in the kernel (even as experimental).  Tell me, how is the system different if you have nopseudo turned off?</p>
<p>Theo</p>
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