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		<title>By: Dafydd Harries</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/1123-free-software-project-hosting/comment-page-1#comment-4375</link>
		<dc:creator>Dafydd Harries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, thanks for taking the time to do this comparison. I find myself in a similar situation, except that I don&#039;t have an existing setup (I just have a bunch of darcs and git repositories served over HTTP). I pretty much agree with your analysis: none of the options seems very good.

Perhaps some of the distributed bug trackers that are emerging will help the situation, but I get the impression that none of them is really ready yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, thanks for taking the time to do this comparison. I find myself in a similar situation, except that I don&#8217;t have an existing setup (I just have a bunch of darcs and git repositories served over HTTP). I pretty much agree with your analysis: none of the options seems very good.</p>
<p>Perhaps some of the distributed bug trackers that are emerging will help the situation, but I get the impression that none of them is really ready yet.</p>
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		<title>By: The Great Geek Manual &#187; Link Round-Up: August 10, 2009</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/1123-free-software-project-hosting/comment-page-1#comment-4330</link>
		<dc:creator>The Great Geek Manual &#187; Link Round-Up: August 10, 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Free Software Project Hosting &#8211; The Changelog compares the leading project hosts side-by-side. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Paolo</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/1123-free-software-project-hosting/comment-page-1#comment-4325</link>
		<dc:creator>Paolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About your open issue with googlecode, they allow scripted uploads.

http://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/ScriptedUploads

Never used it myself, but I remembered reading about it while searching documentation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About your open issue with googlecode, they allow scripted uploads.</p>
<p><a href="http://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/ScriptedUploads" rel="nofollow">http://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/ScriptedUploads</a></p>
<p>Never used it myself, but I remembered reading about it while searching documentation.</p>
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		<title>By: MeThinks</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/1123-free-software-project-hosting/comment-page-1#comment-4315</link>
		<dc:creator>MeThinks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And nobody mentions http://www.codeplex.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And nobody mentions <a href="http://www.codeplex.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.codeplex.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Goerzen</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Goerzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing in that Berlios feature list that isn&#039;t a typical *forge feature is the wiki.  The rest seem to be pretty typical, or not of interest to me.  Thanks for your comments though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing in that Berlios feature list that isn&#8217;t a typical *forge feature is the wiki.  The rest seem to be pretty typical, or not of interest to me.  Thanks for your comments though!</p>
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		<title>By: Luca Bruno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luca Bruno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Berlios:
I&#039;ve tried out most of them and berlios is the best. You should have done a more detailed review of it. It supports git, web hosting, downloads, everything else a *forge supports. It never breaks, it&#039;s stable. Support for troubles is fast.
The difference with all hosting out there is that you have access to the repository folders on their servers. Good visibility for your project. Though the interface is old it has the higher number of features over others and stability IMHO. Web hosting also supports CGI, so I guess you can deploy web sites with something other than perl there.

Google code:
its wiki is extremely limited, I&#039;ve moved my project from there to berlios. Had lots of troubles with ssh and svn when making medium size commits to the repository.

Source forge:
the way they handle downloads and other stuff is like berlios, but more annoying. Berlios has an older interface than sourceforge, but sourceforge is so commercial.

Gitorious:
I use it only for temporarly development. After a project is ready I move it to berlios for the homepage, downloads, bug tracking and so on.

Trac:
it&#039;s always been a pain for all hosting providers, and a limited wiki for all projects. Search is ugly and tickets are arranged so bad that there&#039;re unuseful queries.

Launchpad:
it has nothing, it only appears cool, and it&#039;s also slow.

Assembla:
they have two kinds of wiki: their wiki and trac. It always bored me. They don&#039;t have web hosting. Users get lost in your project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Berlios:<br />
I&#8217;ve tried out most of them and berlios is the best. You should have done a more detailed review of it. It supports git, web hosting, downloads, everything else a *forge supports. It never breaks, it&#8217;s stable. Support for troubles is fast.<br />
The difference with all hosting out there is that you have access to the repository folders on their servers. Good visibility for your project. Though the interface is old it has the higher number of features over others and stability IMHO. Web hosting also supports CGI, so I guess you can deploy web sites with something other than perl there.</p>
<p>Google code:<br />
its wiki is extremely limited, I&#8217;ve moved my project from there to berlios. Had lots of troubles with ssh and svn when making medium size commits to the repository.</p>
<p>Source forge:<br />
the way they handle downloads and other stuff is like berlios, but more annoying. Berlios has an older interface than sourceforge, but sourceforge is so commercial.</p>
<p>Gitorious:<br />
I use it only for temporarly development. After a project is ready I move it to berlios for the homepage, downloads, bug tracking and so on.</p>
<p>Trac:<br />
it&#8217;s always been a pain for all hosting providers, and a limited wiki for all projects. Search is ugly and tickets are arranged so bad that there&#8217;re unuseful queries.</p>
<p>Launchpad:<br />
it has nothing, it only appears cool, and it&#8217;s also slow.</p>
<p>Assembla:<br />
they have two kinds of wiki: their wiki and trac. It always bored me. They don&#8217;t have web hosting. Users get lost in your project.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaurang</title>
		<link>http://changelog.complete.org/archives/1123-free-software-project-hosting/comment-page-1#comment-4304</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaurang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should also try http://assembla.com, 
We had a couple of our projects hosted with them before they started charging, but they still give out free acocunts for OpenSource projects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should also try <a href="http://assembla.com" rel="nofollow">http://assembla.com</a>,<br />
We had a couple of our projects hosted with them before they started charging, but they still give out free acocunts for OpenSource projects.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin pool</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin pool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that Launchpad has human intervention before starting a git import is a bit of a bug, and the developers agreed to remove it.  It&#039;s a hangover from svn and cvs imports where people seem to commonly misconfigure them and doing so produces bad results (think about  checking out the root of a svn repo.)

The community features around merge proposals in Launchpad are pretty interesting, in my biased opinion (https://code.edge.launchpad.net/drizzle/+activereviews) but realistically if you&#039;re using it on only git imports it&#039;s never going to be seen at its best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that Launchpad has human intervention before starting a git import is a bit of a bug, and the developers agreed to remove it.  It&#8217;s a hangover from svn and cvs imports where people seem to commonly misconfigure them and doing so produces bad results (think about  checking out the root of a svn repo.)</p>
<p>The community features around merge proposals in Launchpad are pretty interesting, in my biased opinion (<a href="https://code.edge.launchpad.net/drizzle/+activereviews" rel="nofollow">https://code.edge.launchpad.net/drizzle/+activereviews</a>) but realistically if you&#8217;re using it on only git imports it&#8217;s never going to be seen at its best.</p>
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		<title>By: John Goerzen</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Goerzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you post the URL of the specific Trac extension you are using?  It is non-trivial to find multi-project trac stuff due to so many people talking about it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you post the URL of the specific Trac extension you are using?  It is non-trivial to find multi-project trac stuff due to so many people talking about it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kumpulan Hosting Gratis (Untuk Project Open Source Anda) &#171; Nerd Level Up!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kumpulan Hosting Gratis (Untuk Project Open Source Anda) &#171; Nerd Level Up!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 23:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 2009 Agustus 10   tags: free, hosting, opensource, review by hfz   The Changelog membuat review terhadap berbagai hosting gratis khusus untuk keperluan development perangkat lunak open source. Situs-situs yang di-review [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 2009 Agustus 10   tags: free, hosting, opensource, review by hfz   The Changelog membuat review terhadap berbagai hosting gratis khusus untuk keperluan development perangkat lunak open source. Situs-situs yang di-review [...]</p>
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